A Partridge In A Pear Tree
As I have mentioned before, we former troopers are always running into the I wuz one but really weren't guys constantly.
It seems my old cohort while plying his trade suffered a motor break down. Twas while he was awaiting assistance dispatched by his company, another motorist also suffered a break down. This chap whom J.D. says was around 25 or so starts talking to him and mentions that he was a former Marine. Ole J.D. sly rebel that he is had already sensed this guy was a windbag and says to him hear tell they are a tough outfit. Guy says hell yes and tells Jerry he was Force Recon. J.D. says wow they jump out of planes don't they. The wuzn't guy says you bet. Jerry asks you jump much. Guy says he had over 3000 jumps, 300 combat drops, including 3 in downtown Baghdad.Jerry is overawed and speechless. Guy is really strutting now. Jerry suffers these fools much better than I do and keeps his cool. Guy asks J.D. you been in the service. Jerry says oh yeah I was a paratrooper for three years but didn't make as many jumps as you and none in combat. Guy says oh look nice talking to you I gotta make a phone call. J.D. says, sure Happy PLFs pal. Jerry says as the guy was yakking up his I wuz one tales the part of the 12 days of Christmas carol kept running through his mind about and a partridge in a pear tree. Ah yes, this fella also had hisself as the rebs say 12 or 13 Purple Hearts, 8 Silver Stars, and 5 Bronze Stars. Jerry D. Ray as told to Lou Schreiner

The Legg At The 82nd Airborne Museum
Recently when me and my ole rebel buddy J.D. Ray roamed about the confines of our old base, Fort Bragg, we visited the museum. In a display case we noted a fatigue shirt neatly folded in a military fashion that displayed the following;A Lieutenant Colonels silver leaf, and a name tag that distinctly read "Legg."
We laughed a bit and thought of the abuse and jokes that this officer must have put up with based on his last name during his career. I can hear and see the troopers as they neared him, throwing him an airborne highball and roaring out "Morning Colonel Legg, sir." The flak he must have put up with from his brother officers must have been worthy of a book in itself regarding his name and the yuks he must have drawn. Imagine him at a prop blast party and hearing remarks such as hey Legg get over here. Down that brewski Legg or get down and knock out 20, etc. Sir, we salute you.
Lou Schreiner &J.D. Ray

Forever Airborne
On 17 August 2000 a former 82nd Airborne man was manifested by the Big Jumpmaster in the sky to fill out his paratrooper roster. On the 16th day of August one of his soon to be chosen troopers made a parachute jump to celebrate the opening of the Airborne and Special Operations Museum in Fayetteville, North Carolina. He suffered a fatal heart attack shortly thereafter.
This former wartime trooper of the 82nd Airborne Division had made four combat drops during the second world war. He jumped into the unknown at Sicily, Salerno, Normandy, and Holland. During the Normandy campaign he was wounded in the leg and had his helmet shot off his head. He jumped into Normandy again to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the invasion of France. The airborne tradition of his family lives on in the guise of his grandson LLoyd Runser of Lima, Ohio who completed jump school at Fort Benning last year and had his wings pinned on by this man. Runser is a graduate of West Point last June.
This forever airborne man was Arnold "Dutch" Nagel, aged 78 years young when called to duty by the Big Jumpmaster. He was the recipient of the Purple Heart, Bronze Star, and Combat Infantry Badge. Our heartfelt sympathy to his surviving family.
J.D. Ray and I knew him not but we know the caliber of men such as he was. In addition to our prayers for him and his family we thank you sir for the sacrifices you made for all Americans during WWII.
May you always have soft PLFs with your new unit.
Amen
Lou Schreiner & J.D. Ray
Hi Troops,
It is a small world, just got this from Ranger Buck.

Lou:
I was just on the 504th site that you run and I read the story of Dutch Nagel. I didn't know he had died. Very sad. May God be him. A bit of trivia for you to further illustrate how we share some strange cosmic connection----old Dutch proudly jumped with the other WWII vets into the commencement ceremonies of the 50th anniversary in June 1994. Well, he found a current 82d jumpmaster to sign his parachute log book that afternoon. The 82d jumpmaster said to Mr. Nagel, "Sir, it would be my honor to sign your log book." The two paratroopers representing both old and new generation laughed and took a photo of the event.

Guess who signed Mr. Nagel's book that afternoon in front of the church in Ste Mere Eglise 6 June 94..............................

SSG Robert Buck

I have the picture with me at the moment, I am glad I was able to share one moment of Dutch's life - what a man, what a trooper.

God Speed Dutch, happy landings my friend.



For those that don't know Buck he is now a CW3

Airborne,

Lou



Philosophical Troopers
Every now and again there would arise among various groups of troopers while imbibing of the local beverages (tea or cokes) a discussion regarding their status in the military. Sometimes they would sound quite philosophical in their slurred arguments as to who they were. Many opted that they were indeed the masters of the big iron birds, but others maintained this was not truly so since more than likely, each variety of iron bird they leapt from had seen a trooper killed or seriously injured. Therefore it would be false to call themselves masters of these big iron birds. A few who were of a more romantic and archaic bent such as myself readily agreed with me that we were akin to the knights of old. I proposed this while influenced by Sir Steinhager but the thought had always been in mind. My obtuse thinking along these lines was that we rode these iron birds just as the knights rode their steeds. Did not many troopers such as myself wear their sweethearts scarves around their necks as the knights tied their ladies colors to their lances? Did we not shout a battle cry as we leapt into space, while true not all were fit to be repeated in the presence of wives or sweethearts did not the knights also shout the names of saints as they journeyed forth? Many other similarities did I envision between us and knights of old but by this time before I could voice them - - - -alas and alack I was always shouted down and told have another drink, you are getting wackier everyday.
Lou Schreiner

The Cuckoo And The Donkey
Several times in relating these madcap ramblings of mine and Jerrys while serving with the 504th, I have made reference to those shrieking cuckoo birds that dwelt in the forests of Germany. While pondering these creatures during a recent visit with Jerry Ray he wholeheartedly agreed with me that as I have previously stated no matter how used to them you were, when they cut loose they always scared the hell out of you and made you start. Just recently I have started fooling around with my guitar again which I have not touched in years (practicing to serenade someone whom I idiotically mentioned my limited strumming abilities to) a song I learned in the 4th or 5th grade burst into my limited brain for no apparent reason. The title of this song may be "The Cuckoo And The Donkey" then again maybe it is not. However, in this song they are arguing which one could sing more sweetly in praise of lovely spring. Having heard both of these beasts sound off one in a braying manner reminiscent of a whiskey voiced top kick and the other in a shrill manner like a newly coined 2nd looey, I question the sanity or the sobriety of whoever wrote this ditty. Adding to this my voice which was never musical in nature and has grown worse with the passage of time I query which of the three of us would win honors in this category. Since we are presently in the midst of summer this allows anyone foolish enough to read these bemused twists and turns of a former troopers mind the insight as to why we troopers comported ourselves in an uncivil manner at times. But be assured that these slips of our gears were only temporary and we were and are the best of the lot.
AIRBORNE.
Lou Schreiner

It Wasn't All Fun And Games By No Means
Recently it was brought to my attention and to my jumping partner Jerry Ray that it seems like you guys never did anything but party. To that I must respond that this was not the case. All or rather most of the people I've ever dealt with in life try to gloss over the bad and tend to remember the good in their lives. Taking that as a given, understand that a lot of the previous tales had a lot of pain and hurt in them and were not all laughs. As far as a constant party we in the 504 and our brother jumpers in the 505 spent well over half our time in the field doing infantry type things. There was always the elements, rain, wind, cold, snow, hail, heat, thirst, hunger, dog-tiredness, lack of sleep, you name the woe or misery and it was there for the taking. Digging in was a chore in itself. The gun jeeps had to be concealed and usually one had to dig two alternate firing positions as well. On the go sometimes 24 hours or better, then a broken nights sleep for after all one had to pull guard duty while ones comrades slept. There is a photo one of my buddies took of me at the height of a combined hail and snow storm accompanied by piercing cold winds down around Hohenfels in 1961, that if one looks at my face and hunched shoulders though clad in all my winter garb clearly depicts the lack of fun we had during "Operation Wintershield" Oh it had its highlights such as the Morrocan raid and the Kraut soldier but mostly there was no joy to be had in those frozen boondocks.
Lou Schreiner

Officers and Non-Coms And Other Sundries
am the first to admit that the majority of the officers and non-coms I met and dealt with while in the United States Army were first class leaders and men. However, there were some who were martinets, some ate up with what they perceived to be their superiority, and some dumber than a brick but having the rank to do their will.
One NCO supply sergeant I dealt with would not let me out of his supply room without signing a chit to pay for a blanket (All my gear was stolen while I was in the stockade) even though he knew that all of my gear had been replaced by my platoon N.C.O.s scrounging. I heard one of our N.C.O.s punched him out for this transgression also someone (I wonder who) ice-picked all four of the sidewalls of his tires on his car. Another Sergeant who knowing it angered me always deliberately pronounced my name Schweiner (His idea of jokingly calling me a pig), since he was a SFC he could get away with it but since his head had a peculiar shape I labeled him Jiminy Cricket and it stuck with the troops. Someone told him I started this nick name and he threatened to run me up before the old man. I told him I couldn't care less, jail me it machts nicht to me (luckily either he didn't take me up on it or another N.C.O. told him not to be a jackass. Being forced to part with some of our meager pay for various charities before you could get a pass. Since I dislike the Red Cross (see story) I tried to hold out on principle but several days of KP showed me the error of my ways. White glove inspections finding dust or dirt regardless of the rooms cleanliness (how childish) done to what purpose? Strange officers who would try to sneak up on you while you were on guard duty and even if you were alert and challenged them berating you for not having spied them sooner. Mayhap a shooting or a bayonet in their butt or a butt stroke to the head would have cured this ludicrous game.
Lou Schreiner

Mitunder Vot I Said
Usually I did not let on to the inhabitants of Germany that I had a smattering of their language although I admit I understood it better than I spoke it. My folks were German born and it was spoken in my house before the war but very rarely during or after it. I preferred to eavesdrop on them maintaining a poker face at some of their digs at us troopers, then discreetly informing my buddies who would then convince them of the foolishness of their disparaging remarks regarding us.
Every now and again usually when three sheets to the wind I would engage them in their native tongue. Most enjoyed the effort to converse with them in German. But, and there is always a but, some would pretend they had no clue to what I was saying. I iterate that my German was not the best but it was by no means incomprehensible nor barbaric. Once I realized that for whatever reason I was being given the old I don't understand mitunder vot I said, I and sometimes with my buddies would beat some understanding into their thick skulls.
Lou Schreiner

Sometimes
Quite often both in times of war and peace airborne troopers sometimes had to improvise in order to accomplish their mission. Perhaps for a mundane reason, perhaps for one that was critical to their mission or sometimes to ease their lot in life. Sometimes it was against the enemy or sometimes against the "Chairborne Corps" who plagued them at times.
I have taken the liberty to relate the following incident that John McKenzie mentions in his book "On Time On Target" which is about the 82nd Airborne Division in WWII (This is a great book for troopers and non-troopers alike) and concerns an incident that occurred on 18 December 1944. I love this tale since it involves the "Chairborne and the Ersatz Gestapo both. When the division had to move out during the Battle of The Bulge they only had about 20% of the vehicles needed. A group of noncoms from each battalion went to a nearby SHAEF motor pool to solve their problem. Lacking written orders the "Chairborne" officers refused them. Being armed and imbued with that "Airborne All The Way Spirit" they arrested not only the officers but the MPs who guarded the motor pool. They confiscated 500 trucks and kidnapped 300 drivers in order to carry out their mission.
Naturally I was not present when this occurred but I would like to point out that I had heard of this requisition prior to reading about it in this book.
Mr. McKenzie former trooper 456th Parachute Field Artillery Battalion, 505th Parachute Regimental Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division you were one of the best and we thank you and your brothers in arms for their service and sacrifice for us during WWII.
Lou Schreiner & Jerry D. Ray

NEW MUSEUM: Paratroopers, Past and Present
Our new museum, built to honor airborne and special operations, is seven acres; it has a parade ground in front and a memorial garden behind it...Cost: 22.5 million

Inside: A 46-foot CG-FA Waco Glider with a jeep emerging from the nose...The museum is a five-story atrium that has exposed steel girders shaped to resemble an airplane and the jump towers at Fort Bragg...A world War II paratrooper mannequin hangs overhead, chute deployed.

Invasion of France entrance resembles a bomb-damaged French Village...Paratrooper heroics from the South Pacific are shown on video as one sits on cargo trunks under a thatched roof...Vietnam display...sound of choppers fills the room constantly ...just as it was in that war...A full size Huey chopper anchors another exhibit.

The following quote was taken from the Greensboro News & Record, August 27, 2000:

The museum is devoted to elitism and makes no apologizes for it. The Paratroopers, Rangers and Green Beret rank as the Armys' Best. Soldiers are not forced into these units. They volunteer to go through rigorous training far beyond what other soldiers endure. They do so, Gen. Henry Shelton said at the opening ceremony, because they have " an unquenchable thirst for adventure".

Submitted by: Jerry Ray

Piglets A Stag And two Horses
Once up in the Tannes Mountains, Jerrys platoon was flaked out for the night. One of the squads was lying down in a tiny trail. The rebels in the platoon pointed out the fact that it probably was a game trail to them Damn Yankees. The Yankees figured yah, yah, yah, more southern jive. Along about very oh dark hundred hours came the thunder of tiny hooves, high pitched squeals, and screaming Yanks. Twas a game trail and a bunch of wild pigs luckily just the piglets came a charging them Yankees like Pickett at Gettysburg.
One early morning just as the dawn was breaking ole J.D. was a-stirrin in his sleeping bag, all was quiet, as he slowly arose to answer natures call, he observed just below him about a hundred yards away, one of those stately German Stags haughtily eyeballing him. The stag slowly turned and disappeared back to whence he came and Jerry suitably impressed went on about his business.
While visiting my roots, a female cousin, had the brilliant idea to take me horseback riding. At 0600 hours despite my protests the eve before she awakens me, clad in riding breeches, cap and the whole nine yards. We go to the barn two of those elephant looking Budweiser type horses already saddled. We climb aboard , she gives a mighty German version of giddy-up, horses thunder along 50 or 60 feet, hers throws her off, both horses about face and return to barn. As they enter the barn I duck my head or else I would have lost it. Horses start to eat hay, I gallantly go to cousins aid, she is highly embarrassed and her derriere is sore for a week.
J.D. Ray & Lou Schreiner

The Legs Chat About Days Of Yore
On or about 1200 hours, Saturday, 12 August 2000, a former AIRBORNE TROOPER was spending his hard earned NYPD pension check in the 82nd Airborne museums gift shop. His buddy Jerry Ray was outside having a smoke. This REAL TROOPER heard a voice say, "What outfit were you in buddy?" I turn and as I do this guy sees my parachute wings with the 504 above them pinned on my hat and says,"504, I see when were you there?" I tell him he says he was in Germany at the same time with an Airborne Engineering outfit. I tell him I came out of the 503 here at Bragg. He says he was in 325 also at Bragg. I say, "Oh another leg." Before he can hook me I explain how I always ragged my buddy J.D. who is outside was in the 325 and I always rode him that it was a leg outfit. He laughs and I ask him to go along with me when I get Jerry and introduce them. He readily agrees. I get Jerry bring him over to the guy (he was a retired master sergeant) and I say, "Jerry I want you to meet a fellow leg I dug up from the 325." For a second Jerry is perplexed, then he realizes it was another "gotcha." The three of us had a good time talking of our days as troopers and shared quite a few laughs.
Lou Schreiner 325 ABG

Did I Truly Hear And See Them?
Ole J.D. Ray and me were sitting in the C-130 mock up trainer down at Bragg earlier this month of August. We were idly chatting about things airborne. As we talked to each other, I kind of sensed in the back of my mind, the roar of the turbo props, the sound of the jumpmaster shouting the preparatory commands prior to leaping through the aircraft door. I could hear the men shouting their number off and the command to stand in the door.
After a bit Jerry and I posed in the mock ups door in an exit the aircraft position. Just for a split second as I took his photo I saw him as he once was in our youth laden down with his chute and rifle.
When he took my photo just as the shutter clicked I was that tough 17 year old kid who once defied the odds.
As we got back into his car to head for the museum, I looked back at the jump school area and as it faded from view, so did my momentary recollection of who and what we once had been.
Lou Schreiner




Once His Brother Was Airborne
Back in the spring of this year 2000, I went to one of the local stores. When I came out I saw a young man in his late 20s or early 30s standing by my car. Warily I approached him and as I neared him he said, "Excuse me mister, but I see your wings and 82nd bumper sticker, and since I now can see the wings on your hat and your airborne tatoo, I guess I don't need to ask if you were a paratrooper?"
I tell him I was and ask him, "Why were you airborne too?" He says, "No sir, I wasn't but my brother was in the 3rd Brigade, 82nd Airborne, and was killed in Nam, and I always say hello to anyone I meet who was a trooper because I feel it makes him know how proud I was of him and that I am always thinking of him."
I shake the guys hand and wish him luck and as I drive away I need to pull over for a couple of minutes because my windshield is kind of hard to see through. When I can see clearly I say a little prayer for this fallen trooper whose name i don't know and one for all of the rest of them.
God Bless Them All
Lou Schreiner

The Arboreal Airborne Joker
There was a trooper I knew back in the 1/503 who eventually wound up in the 1/504 although not in "E" Company. I won't tell you his name but he was a well known and well liked joker who had many pecadillos that were unique. If he ever reads this and wants to name himself I am sure not only will he admit to the following but will add to his legend. He was a big guy over 6 and a half feet and 250 pounds or so of solid muscle. A career private was he on his 3rd enlistment. He could soldier hard with the best of them and as fast as he got promoted he got demoted. Of couse this was stateside since rank was frozen in the 504 for the longest time. Rumor had it that the army suffered him because his father was a general. When queried about this, he would giggle and walk away. He always had gin in his canteens claiming it prevented rust on his weapon. He would get nauseous if he so much as looked at an airplane and whenever he rode in one always threw up. Yet he would climb aboard and continue to be airborne. He said jumping was his lot in life. Whenever he jumped no matter where in the stick he would come to a halt at the door of the plane and just tuck his head down and fall out. He was so damn big the entire stick could be pushing but he still managed to make his stop. The other strange thing about this happy warrior was that if a tree was to be found anywhere near the DZ he would invariably land in it. Never got hurt and when asked what's with you and the trees?, he would look at you, take a sip from his canteen, giggle, shoulder his weapon and walk away. I never did figure this guy out but he was a good man to have on your side whenever fists flew and he would share his last penny with you. A legend albeit an odd one but a legend never the less.
Lou Schreiner

Still Proud To Be One
No, no not me, I am sure it is obvious to all who chance by, that J.D. Ray and I were and still are proud to have been airborne. In my wanderings through life from early childhood on, I have known paratroopers from WWII to the present. If I had to guess 99.9% of them were all proud of having worn those silver wings. The other .1% are either being facetious or missed out on something in my opinion. Which brings me to the point.
During my law enforcement career one of my fellow officers arrested two soldiers from a local crime family for stealing sod from a nursery. When he was processing them, he called me over to show me that one of them had a miniature photostat of his jump school diploma in his wallet. By the way he went through jump school with me.
Another guy whom I won't name but was prominent in the movie "Goodfellas" was a former trooper. I knew this guy slightly growing up in Brooklyn. He was a fringe member of the mob and became an informer against them. He wrote a book and brags of his days as a paratrooper and says he was a 5 for 10 guy while in the service. He also claims he ran a numbers operation while airborne. The 5 for 10 I believe, numbers no, although I could be wrong, but I never knew anyone in the troops who played the numbers unless they did so at home.
This story is just an attempt to say that a paratrooper regardless of where he wound up later on was usually proud of who and what he once had been.
Lou Schreiner

Swagger Sticks & Short Timing
Swagger sticks and short timer sticks were frowned on by the powers that be in the 504. Most officers and NCOs looked the other way when they saw a short timer carrying one. I had not bothered to make a short timer's stick since I didn't know when I was getting out. Once I got my orders I started looking around. Most of the outfit was in the boonies as I was clearing post. I spied a guy I vaguely knew from another company who was sporting a short timer stick. I found out he had 60 days to go and asked him to sell me his, which he did for $5.00. He had made it in the shop well in advance of his discharge. I display it on my mantle to this day. It is made of wood, has a 7.62mm round on the tip, mid way down the stick is a small set of parachute wings, and corporal stripes, (we both were speedy 4s but that insignia was not available, and on the bottom of the stick is a 50 pfenig coin. I brasso it up every now and again.
Short timers had many expressions to denote their status, here are a few.
I'm so short I could walk under a pregnant ant with a high hat on.
I'm a double digit midget.
I'm a single digit midget.
I'm so short you can't see me.
I'm so short I don't have time for a butt.
I'm so short I need a ladder to get into bed.
I'm so short I need a chute to jump out of bed.
I'm so short my helmet covers me from head to toe.
I'm so short color me gone.
Lou Schreiner

Me, My Short Timer's Stick & The Lieutenant
With a day or so to go and the 504 still in the boonies, except for short timers, sick, HQ personnel, and the like, I am strutting about with my short timer's stick tucked under my right arm pit. Here comes a new Lieutenant I never saw before, I touch the brim of my fatigue cap with the stick and say, "Morning, sir." He goes ballistic and wants to know what my act is. I tell him I am short timing and meant no disrespect. He is yelling louder and louder and a lovely shade of crimson as I stand at attention. He demands my stick. I refuse saying I will put it away but will not give it to him. He orders me to go with him to Head & Head Co., we get there he orders me to remain at attention, and enters the X.O.s office and I hear him screeching to him about the wise guy he has outside and wants to make an example of me. He comes out tells me to report to the XO, I do so, marching in, giving him a highball and the rigamarole about reporting as ordered. He asks me what happened, I give him my version, he says go back to your company area and no more saluting with that stick. I say, "YESSIR". About face and depart. Since he didn't say I couldn't carry the stick, I continue to do so. Later on that day I see the lieutenant, give him a crisp salute with a bellowing, "ALL THE WAY SIR." He returns it saying nothing, I know he is brand new because even though we rarely used that term in the 504, all troopers were or should have been aware of it. I smirk to myself and figure you lose sucker.
Want to tell him I have more time under a chute then he has in the chow line but get a grip on myself and diddy bop on. By the way the XO was a new guy or maybe he was the acting jack for the XO but he was squared away.
Lou Schreiner

Shooting For Qualification
J.D. Ray and myself have always been good shots with a variety of weapons. When he was a youth, he often hunted to put meat on the table. When I briefly lived in New Jersey as a lad, I was my father's bird dog. I pointed pretty good, and flushed coveys of quail, and retrieved pretty good.
In the army one time I was firing an M-1 carbine for qualification and scored 299 out of a possible 300. I couldn't understand the errant round until I saw the sly grin on one of my buddies faces (he had put one of his rounds out of the black on my target as a joke). I was a good sport though and allowed him to buy the beer that night.
Another time I pull CQ runner all night with Sgt. Cunningham and we go to fire the 106mm for qualification. I am irked to say the least. Sgt. Wise commences the firing drill and I pop a tank dead center but not the one he called out. He gets annoyed with me and tells me how I won't be rated expert because I missed and to take the s- -t out of my ears. I tell him I hit a @#$%@# tank didn't I and he is chickens - - t and if he wants me to do better he should take the s - - t out of his mouth and maybe I might do better. He gets royally mad and starts talking jail and other nonsense which causes Sgt. Cunningham to take up for me. They almost come to blows, finally every thing calms down and we go back to shooting. I don't miss a tank but Sgt. Wise gets the last word in because true to his word I don't make expert. I don't forgive him for 6 months or so and only talk to him when necessary. I made expert gunner next time around and make a point of telling him that I felt I was already an expert other then his mumbled commands. He laughs we have a beer that night and all is forgiven.
Lou Schreiner

Heated Up Re Presidential Race
There is a short article re the heated up presidential race on one of the 82nd Airborne unit pages. I would not deign to answer it thereat because in my estimation it is a shallow and unworthy observation that seems not to be worth the author's .05 cents nor entitled to be preached from a soap box. The only notable remark is the self evident truism that opinions can be dissenting.
To state that the elder Bush and Mr. Cheney sent the troops to the Gulf to protect their and their buddies oil interests loses sight of why we went there. Had we not would we be minus the necessary oil that runs this country and heats our homes? Since we went did it not have anything at all in the author's mind regarding aggression? Is it not self evident that oil is vital to our national interest? Were Bush the elder and Mr. Cheney and friends the only ones who now have oil due to our going? Opec and our allies are giving us the shaft right now re oil what would it have been like had Sadaam taken over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia? For someone to carp about troops returning sick due to our involvement and thereby tacitly imply support for Gore is overlooking Haiti, Kosovo, missiles shot off at aspirin factories, depletion of missiles, paring down and over stretching of the military ad naseum. If a crew in the white house consisting of the remnants of the cast of two timing, lying, illegal fund raising, hypocrites,big government,ruined educational standards are to your liking then I think you had best rethink your approach to politics because if there is any "hype" and propaganda spieling it comes from the liberal democrats who since the 60's have been eroding this great nation.
Lou Schreiner

Troop Welfare
A continuance of presidental race heating up. In this nation the veterans of all wars once they are ended have always been given the short end of the stick. This country has always been noted for getting caught short. Sad but true.
However, the way the military is being used today is ludicrous and under a Gore administration it would serve to continue to erode and misuse our military power. Can anyone name our national interests in Haiti? (Baseballs perhaps)? Kosovo the "hype" because WWI & WWII started there ala "Slick Willie" and crew. I think not. Ethnic cleansing?
What is still going on there? Bosnia? The same. Where are our national interests. These people have been killing and hating each other for 600 years if not longer. When do our troops come home? How is the mission to be ended? Are we to be the police officers of the world? That is not what armies are for. It cannot be done and if our interests are not at stake we should not be there.
If one espouses the opinion that they recognize the need for top-notch national defense how can the state of today's military be overlooked? Why are the troops not re-enlisting for their slots? Why do we have the very people who defend us having to resort to food stamps? Why is the military being cut back yet being deployed more then at anytime in our history and pushing the troops mentally and physically beyond endurance? THIS IS A TOP-NOTCH NATIONAL DEFENSE? Key word, NATIONAL DEFENSE,are any of these missions vital to our national defense? Why not nationalize the police and send them to do the military duties and have the troops do the policing of our inner cities. Great on the job training (meant facetiously). If anyone wants to soldier I think they had better check the definition of this administration's definition of soldier and soldiering. Vote for "IGOR" and in my humble estimation we can change the leader of the country's title to PRESIDENT OF VICE and ASSISTANT PRESIDENT OF VICE. I mean "Igor" only remembers one meeting and had to tinkle and didn't know it was a fund raiser.
Lou Schreiner


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